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  1. I measured an expedition with the bench seat, with the middle 2nd row removed a National Luna 40/55/60/65 truck freezer should fit. It will stick out above the folded-flat floor by about 7". Still a better option than the cheesy console that comes in some of the Navigators
  2. Little bit of a brain dump from my tow vehicle search. I know there are a few others that have already gone the Expedition/Navigator route. I think we've finally landed on our tow vehicle (still negotiating purchase). I started by looking at F150s, then the RAM 2500 with its coil suspension, the Silverado 1500 with the diesel, and now finally the Expedition MAX / Navigator L. F150s were running out of payload pretty quickly once a cap was put on. RAM 2500 didn't really work out because of optioning (the way the dealers build them make them expensive with no payload, or missing certain options) and the Silverado 1500 is out for the non-moving pedals and sad interior. We've been heavily eyeing the Expedition/Navigator as an alternative. It comes with ~1600lbs of payload in the trims we want (and doesn't need a 200lbs cap), in the MAX/L it gets 630lbs of hitch weight before needing a WDH, and the space is very usable -- 8 people with decent luggage or 4x8 sheet material all fit while being shorter than any of the crew cab options. Pro trailer backup assist will be nice, and it has adaptive cruise/braking/other safety features we wanted. On the used market, an F150 Lariat/502A or Platinum, Expedition MAX Limited/Platinum with the right packages (tech+tow), and Navigator L can be fairly closely priced. We just finished a rental in an Expedition MAX XLT. So it was still missing many of the features we wanted, but gave us a chance to live with the form factor longer than a test drive. It is certainly larger than most vehicles on the road, but still shorter than most trucks. Its ride with independent rear suspension was better than any of the other options (and test driving the CCD on a platinum - it's even better than this XLT). The independent rear suspension will probably limit rock crawling capabilities, but should be fine for washboard/unpaved roads. I got 27MPG driving from NJ to PA and back, including some "stop and go" at a drive-through. My wife did have to adjust her turn-in point compared to her BMW wagon, to avoid dragging the rear tires on the yellow median line, but overall she liked it. Expedition ordering: XLT, Limited, and Platinum are the trims. XLT is a good value, but adaptive cruise isn't available there so we looked at Limited and Platinum. There is a lot of overlap between a limited with the 302A package and a Platinum. For a fairly high featured truck, the limited special edition is the value leader. With only having to order 301A, it gets LED headlights, driver assist pack, and max tow package all together. FX4 is going to be an option for 2020s when they start taking orders on those. Reasons to spend some extra for the Lincoln Navigator: the interior is totally different. The dash of the Expedition is out of a Super Duty. The dash of the Navigator definitely as the feel of a car in its price. My only gripe is the piano black and faux chrome. Seat adjustments are on the door instead of fumbling next to your seat. Headlights are auto leveling (a plus when towing/loaded). Heads up display is actually a much nicer feature than I thought, and I really missed it after getting out of the car with it. Probably the biggest plus is for all warranty work and the initial maintenance, they will pickup the Lincoln from my house/work and leave a loaner. When done they will swap back. That is also an option for extended maintenance and warranty plans which are fairly reasonably priced at the online vendors. The only downside to the Lincoln is that fancypants branding. Thankfully Ford has done a good job of diluting that brand, but it will still stand out more than just an expedition. Hope that helps someone looking down that road...and hope to have something soon.
  3. We'll have the composting toilet thankfully (wife agreed, service is putting it in now). The 7th through the 11th aren't looking to be super cold yet, otherwise I have to decide if I am going to get some 18" wheels and snow tires for the TV. Weather might also divert us further south for better pass crossings.
  4. Looking for recommendations I-80/ I-90 -- we're heading west from NY to WA. Currently have yellowstone/rushmore on the list but looking for some eastern sights worth seeing. We'll be a little time crunched so we can't go hours/days off the path, but detours for something nice are appreciated as well as good overnight locations. It will be the second week of October.
  5. Thanks for the post - great data and the MPG looks great. It looks like Ford/Lincoln nailed it with the Expedition/Navigator. Hopefully we will have one or the other soon!
  6. None of the mobile solutions are amazing. SkyPro V3 is one of the only ones to support band 71 -- which gives T Mobile some pretty great coverage that still beats most of the public WiFi I have seen. I think ideally I'd have a waterproof enclosure of decent up top with 1 or 2 runs of Cat 5/6 to the attic. MIMO and everything else make the antenna count pretty high, and it'd be like 10 runs of coax if you wanted to have band diversity for wifi, 4g, and 5g (plus GPS/Glonass/etc...). Thus I think it's good to have the modems/etc on the outside and just pipe the data into a "non-mobile" multi-wan router. That's pretty much how the WiFi ranger works, but the downside is that it still has smaller/less gain on the antennas and still the builtin LTE solution doesn't support aggregation -- which would really boost speeds if you are in an area where you have multiple bands of coverage but at more marginal levels. So while I could probably do better with a weekend and the right supplies, I'll take the SkyPro V3 and run with it for now, given that I just had to swipe a card to make it happen.
  7. I didn't scroll down enough--cool. For tongue weight - I checked the German brochure and they are quoting 150KG so the 330lbs checks. What they didn't do was figure how the US loading (10%) differs from EU (people tow here with 5% tongue weight all day). Expect one of the two numbers to change (Towing/tongue). Some cars get more tongue rating in the US, some get less tow rating.
  8. Biggest letdown for me is no adaptive cruise unless I go for the $100k top end build option. Second would be the 23 gallon tank feeling a little small for towing. Other than that, looks great - nice to see some non bling wheels on an SUV.
  9. https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/cradlepoint-changing-support-policy-requiring-service-contract-for-firmware-security-updates/ This is a little concerning if true - $180/year to keep your box updated/secure from cradlepoint. I am going for the modem installed in the outside WiFi ranger unit. Ideally it'd be category 12 LTE and all that, but it will probably be good enough. Upside is I didn't really have to lift a finger to make it happen as Oliver installs it and does all the holes in the roof. V3 will also support Band 71 for those T-Mobile/Millenicom users. I also agree with overland that with a good 4G or better signal, a signal booster isn't really needed. We went with the signal booster more for voice calls when in edge/3G land. We don't expect to use it much, but when we do need it, it will be nice to have. Beyond that, we have a Delorme InReach which I've used on my bike expeditions, so that at least gets short text messages out to whoever we want, wherever we want (as long as we can see the sky).
  10. Last time I was there, it was on the mountain bike. If you do dare to go into Canadia, the Banff national park is pretty sublime, but might limit your anti-bear tools. No great ideas for camping - I was sleeping under an emergency blanket on the side of the trail. Saw some interesting animals (big cats and bears), but none of them wanted to eat me. Maybe that will calm the wife down?
  11. Please let us know how the Navigator works out -- they are high on our list right now and I have my eye on an "L" when we land back in the states if the dealer is ready to deal. As far as towing and tight fuel pumps, positioning is key. If you need to turn into the pump island (ie refueling door is on left, and you need to go left), make sure you make your approach with additional space between you and the pumps. This will allow the trailer to track inside of your TV's track without hitting the island. If you need to turn away from the pumps, then being a little closer to the island can be helpful, just make sure you watch that your trailer's rear bumper doesn't swing into the island. Costco gasoline is another great source, usually they have plenty of space to maneuver in and out, and are setup for one way traffic. The single biggest problem with your corner/streetside gas station is the swarm of people coming in and out from every which direction in a hurry. I had people cut off the inside of my turn, then get upset when "I" was blocking "their" way. Costco prices are also generally very good for fuel and propane.
  12. If having something more nimble is what you want - I'd take a look at folks that are towing with more 4x4 friendly TVs like John's LC200, the Touareg mafia (it is a very capable offroad platform), and even the Jeep Gladiator if you can make the payload work. We're still trying to figure out what to do if we go somewhere and I need to take off on a trip and don't want to leave the wife without a car. It looks like Uber/Lyft/Rental cars will be the best option.
  13. Sounds like you need to book a tour with an Oliver owner. Click “see an Ollie” on this website. If you already have a tow vehicle and have the time, making a vacation/road trip out of it is great. The Smoky mountains are sight to be seen. Otherwise, you can get your trailer delivered to your door.
  14. Either will work fine, and rear ratios end up being academic with some of the newer transmissions out there that have lockup in just about every gear. The problem with a RAM 1500 isn't going to be the rear end ratio, it's going to be the payload. When I looked at one (loaded) it was in the 900lbs range. I'd be more inclined to upgrade to a 6.4 in a 2500 and pickup a ~3000lbs payload instead - even if it means an older cab. Same price, near same size, much more capability.
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