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My name is George Adam.My wife Joanie and I are considering the purchase of a Legacy II to replace our Airstream. Earlier this week we visited with John Davies to view his 'Mouse'. We were very impressed with both it and John's tour. Thanks again, John. I will likely post some questions shortly to get all of your views based on your experiences with your Ollies. Thanks in advance.

 

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Howdy George and Joanie,

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

John showed Joni and I his unit and he does a very good job in promoting the OTT and definitely post up your questions to the forum members; they are a very knowledgeable and truly helpful bunch of folks. They got me over the hump on a few issues and very glad they did. We recently purchased our LE II (May 2018) and feel free to ask me questions. Publicly or PM me as desired.

 

Mark

 

 

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Hi George, Don here in Louisiana. I too am in the process of considering an Elite II, but I don't have the experience with travel trailers that you have. I reckon that makes me a true novice. I've been voraciously reading the posts here, and I've found them to be very enlightening about the OTT. But, just as importantly I've learned a lot about this respectful community of OTT owners. Since I am such a novice I don't know what I don't know, thus I'll be very interested in both the questions you ask and the responses given.

Glad to meet you.

Don

BTW, Boise is on my short list of places to retire to in a few years.

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Hey George and Joanie, welcome to the group. Airstream makes a good looking trailer but the Oliver is something quite different!

 

Don, this is a great place to get your questions answered. We picked ours up 2 years ago and it is our first travel trailer. We had lots of questions too. After about 30K miles since May 2016 and mentoring and help from fellow owners I think we’ve got it figured out! Mike

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Mike and Carol Thompson | Fair Oaks Ranch, TX


The Lone Star Oliver #135 | 2016 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4X4 5.7L Hemi


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In just over a month (July 5th) from now I will be leaving the mountains of Western North Carolina for two months of fly fishing in the mountains of Idaho. If I can help you in any way, please do not hesitate to Private Message me. Welcome to our world!

 

Bill


2017 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist"

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I have a few questions about OTT's:

 

Rock Damage: I saw John Davies' rock guards from Australia, but they are probably overkill for what we do. What have others done about this problem, or is it minimal when mostly driving on paved roads?

 

BTT Mattress Upgrade: Has anyone purchased this upgrade and, if yes, do you think it with the extra $'s?

 

Contoure Microwave: Does anyone know the model number? I have seen Contoure convection/microwave models on-line which look exactly the same as the model used by Oliver. Is there a reason a convection/microwave can't be used in an Oliver:

 

Composting Toilet: If one opts for the composting toilet, what happens to the black water tank and its corresponding space?

 

Batteries: Are the standard 2 batteries adequate if not boon docking?

 

Repairs: Have any of you who own a 2014 or 2015 Legacy II experienced what might be considered an excessive amount of repairs?

 

2nd Awning: Have ay of you purchased one and how often do you use it?

 

That's it for now. Looking forward to seeing any replies.

 

George

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Hello, George. I can answer a few of your questions. I have the extra awning and I rarely use it. Once in awhile, it's nice to create shade on that side of the camper depending on where you are camping and the time of day.

 

I added the composting toilet to my '16 Elite II last fall. The black tank remains. I don't know if Oliver deletes the black tank if you order an Elite II with the composting toilet, but I doubt if they do. I know that others have asked Oliver to consider adding additional fresh water capacity in lieu of the unused black tank, but I don't think this has gotten any traction.

 

I ordered upgraded mattresses in October 2015 for my '16 Ollie. I think they are worth the money. Oliver now offers a latex mattress upgrade. I sleep on a latex mattress at home--wish I had one in my camper.

 

I don't have anything on my Ollie to protect it from rock chips. I've driven on gravel and dirt roads. My strategy is to go slow. I have driven in construction zones in Colorado with loose rock. I was more concerned about my windshield so I stayed as far to the right as I could, drove slowly and left a lot of space between my vehicle and the one ahead of me. I've towed my Elite II nearly 20k miles and I don't have any fiberglass damage.

 

Don


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2016 Elite II Twin Bed Hull #126


2016 VW Touareg TDI


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George -

 

Rock damage - I believe that you are correct regarding John's solution, but then again, not many owners are doing what John is doing. There are a number of threads on the Forum regarding both temporary and more permanent solutions to this problem.

 

Mattress upgrade - Since my Oliver is a 2016 model I do not have the current or even any aftermarket mattress upgrades. However, I did get the mattress upgrade that was available at the time directly from Oliver just for one side (twin bed model). While the standard cushions are adequate for a week or so, I'm very happy that I got the upgrade given that I'm on the road for as much as 12 to 15 weeks at a time, usually not with my wife along.

 

According to the folks at Oliver, there is simply not enough ventilation space in the microwave compartment for a convection oven.

 

Toilet - the black tank remains in its present location but is not used.

 

Batteries - the answer to this question is - it depends. If you are getting the solar option then the four batteries are just about a done deal. If you don't want the solar and if you are frugal on energy and/or take short trips (3 or 4 days at a crack) or are plugged into shore power virtually all the time, then, the standard two would probably be enough. However, it sure is nice to not have to worry about running out of electric juice when you have the solar and the four batteries.

 

After the initial 12 month bumper to bumper warranty ran out I have had virtually no repairs - just normal stuff like re-packing the wheel bearings and greasing the EZ-Flex suspension.

 

2nd awning - if you intend to spend a fair amount of time in very sunny/hot areas then give the second awning a serious look (I'm thinking desert southwest here). If not, skip it - you can always add it later fairly easily.

 

Is that all you've got?

 

Bill


2017 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5EB FX4 Max Towing 2016 Oliver Elite II - Hull #117 "Twist"

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I have applied clear automotive paint protection film made by 3M to the front of the trailer. I cant say yet how effictive it is but it appers to be a nice product. It applies like window tint and can be purchased in bulk. I put a 18" high piece across the front. The nice thing about it is you cant see it unless you really look hard and it can be easily removed. I will tell you in a year or so how well it works. ?

 

You can see more information and videos here.

http://www.invisiblemask.com/imask/

 

 

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Tom & Cheryl 

LE II #305

2018 GMC 2500HD SLT Duramax

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George, I agree with the answers given so far. We’ve got a lot of miles on our trailer and have no noticeable rock damage. When we decide to go to Alaska we will go with some kind of protection. John Davies has done a lot with this. Pete Marks (Bugeyedriver) also has a good rock protection solution.

 

We got the upgraded mattresses that were available in the fall of 2015 and would definitely recommend it.

 

We have the four AGM battery upgrade with the solar and are happy with the off grid capability.

 

We have a single awning and regular toilet and have no issues.

 

We had a couple of QC issues early on that were addressed under warranty but since then it’s just been routine stuff.

 

Mike


Mike and Carol Thompson | Fair Oaks Ranch, TX


The Lone Star Oliver #135 | 2016 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4X4 5.7L Hemi


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Welcome to the forum! We have towed our Oliver on many forest service dirt and gravel roads. The place where we have a few dings is underneath behind the trailer wheels. I wish we had mud flaps there. We have the latex mattress upgrade currently offered by Oliver and find them very comfortable, I think some people have custom mattresses made by Southern Mattress and that option might be cheaper. If you are planning off grid camping for more than a couple days at a time, I highly recommend the solar and battery upgrade . We do not have a composting toilet or second awning. In our experience, Oliver is a high quality product and company. I do not think you could find a company that stands behind there product like they do. Any problem we have had, they have resolved above and beyond our expectations. We have owned a Casita and a Bigfoot in the past and Oliver is by far the best.


Yvonne & Doug


2017 Legacy Elite II, twin bed


Hull #223


2017 Ford F-250 Lariat, crew cab

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There is a promise that I (and I believe most owners) would be comfortable making to any prospective owner...

 

“You will never be sorry you bought an Oliver”

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Steve, Tali and the dogs: Reacher, Lucy and Rocky plus our beloved Storm and Maggie (both waiting at the Rainbow Bridge) 2008 Legacy Elite I - Outlaw Oliver, HULL NUMBER: 0026 2014 Legacy Elite II - Outlaw Oliver, HULL NUMBER: 0050 2017 Silverado High Country 2500HD Diesel 4x4 


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Lots of responses and we concur with most. Our experiences:

 

Our current TV is a dually truck with just the OEM rear splash guards. No off-road/gravel roads travels yet and if encountered, very slow going is the plan. We have about 4K on pavement so far towing the OTT and no evidence of rocks/tar/road garbage hitting the front. I will be installing flaps behind the trailer tires; I believe they are needed and OTT would be wise installing flaps as a standard item or at least offering the option. It will be an easy addition and John covers one method in his thread.

 

We opted for the composting toilet. It works as advertised. The emptying of the urine tank will be your frequent item needing attention. I've emptied it once with no issues and I'm glad we went with the option. The black tank and fresh water valve is intact and I agree with Oliver in keeping the plumbing OEM for any future need, be it resell or in wishing to convert back to a standard RV toilet someday.

 

We went with the standard cushions and added a 3" mattress topper from Costco and stuff everything into fitted sheets. Joni plans to source sleeping bag liners with zippers to ease the bed making routine but what we have so far, works well. Added a product under the mattress set-up to hopefully combat any moisture issues; needed, probably not but cheap insurance. Search this forum for "Mold in your Mattress" for all the opinions you'll need. The twin beds are made up when not used and not routinely used as a sitting area.

 

I would not even question the solar and 4 AGM battery option; just go for it. We have Zamp portables used for other needs and I'm familiar with their products. The Zamp systems work well and are a simple and basic set-up. I'll bet you'll find yourselves in a boon-docking situation someday, be it a Cabela's or Walmart parking lot or an invite from friends to a non-plug adventure in the middle of nowhere, so why limit the ability to go where you want? And Zamp's HQ is a 1/2 day drive west of you should any problems arise. On battery only, I find you can easily run the microwave, a small (1100 watt) toaster oven and a single induction plate. With the addition of the plug-in portable catching all the available rays, I can't imagine not having enough power for our needs. We have yet to use the inside gas stove; anything needing gas heat is usually done outside on either a grill or portable gas stove.

 

We have the one awning and have yet to deploy it. I need to roll it out just to make sure it works and is free of defects. We have the exact awning on our Hallmark truck camper and have used it exactly twice in over 20 trips. I could see needing/using it more if travels to the hot states was a constant and shading the windows was the goal, but for us, we could have done without awnings. In our experiences in the mountains areas we frequent, when it starts raining the last place we'll be is outside sitting under an awning enjoy a gentle rain; it doesn't happen. The awning would likely be ripped from the brackets; big winds and heavy rain go hand in hand in the Rockies. Awnings can easily be added later if desired.

 

Although not asked, I'll add this. We did not order the front basket. I knew I would want/need a dual purpose platform to use as a step when climbing to/from the TV tailgate and possibly mounting the genset or bike carriers to someday. I built the one pictured and I'll eventually build a locking mount for the generator if I find we truly need the genset...so far, it has not been needed. This model, converted to propane, runs the A/C in both cooling and heat mode (easy start option from OTT). Others have expressed problems in it having enough output. I haven't fully tested it yet and if I was to do it again...no genset needed. But now that I have it, I'll set things up to carry it securely if desired.

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Welcome Adam, I enjoyed meeting you and Joanie and it was fun showing "Mouse" to an appreciative audience. I think you will find that this forum is an extended family, and when you buy your Ollie it will be a great place to start and maintain friendships.

 

Natures Head toilet: the black water tank and associated dump valve, plumbing and vent system is kept. The composting toilet has a powered vent that tees into the existing 2" tank vent under the bathroom sink. The little 1 amp fan circulates fresh air through the toilet main compartment, then sends it out the roof. We have discussed converting the black tank to additional potable water, but I do not think anyone has done it yet.

 

From what we talked about, you don't really need an extra 18 gallons, with its associated weight (150 pounds) located toward the front of the trailer. For a boondocker who normally would have to carry extra water in his truck, then yes, it could be a great mod., The factory will not do anything like this, they have to meet RV plumbing standards and those do not permit any connections between fresh and waste systems.

 

Rock protection: Some regular towing flaps on your Mercedes, that could be removed with the hitch, plus urethane film on the front of the trailer would be plenty. I do think that trailer mud flaps should be a factory option and they will really help to protect the underside of the hull and the water fittings. Even if you do not intend to go off pavement, sometimes yo get stuck on a detour or on road construction and it is unavoidable. Sometimes you cannot creep along at 15 mph due to other traffic doing 35 or more..... I did more damage the first year going 20 miles down a freshly "chip sealed" highway, and also through several long construction zones in ID, where I found stones the size of my thumb lying on top of the rear bumper. They got there by ricocheting off the rear bumper and then off the rear lights. It really is best to deflect them down onto the road instead of up onto the trailer.

 

Ask Oliver about factory mud flaps. The more people who ask, the more likely it is they will offer them as an option.

 

John Davies

 

Spokane WA


"Mouse":  2017 Legacy Elite II NARV (Not An RV) Two Beds, Hull Number 218, See my HOW TO threads: https://olivertraveltrailers.com/topic/john-e-davies-how-to-threads-and-tech-articles-links/

 

Tow Vehicle: 2013 Land Cruiser 200, 33" LT tires, airbags.

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